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		<title>By: JTankers</title>
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		<description>Disinformation and propaganda are significant challenges.  

Disinformation includes stating that Large Hadron Collider safety is assured and global danger is not possible (as most people would understand not possible) when in fact safety is disputed by multiple credible sources[1][2] and safety is unknown[3][4].

Disinformation includes stating that micro black holes evaporate without noting that Hawking Radiation is unproven theory disputed by multiple credible papers as fundamentally flawed and may or does not exist.[5][6][2]

Disinformation and censorship includes directing CERN scientists to affirm no risk in all interviews regardless of personal opinion[7], and attacking the credibility of independent scientists who publicly express concern.

Are scientists more concerned with public opinion and funding scientific experimentation than safety?  At the Global Catastrophic Risk conference when Toby Ord estimated a 1 in 1,000 chance that CERN&#039;s safety assumptions may be fundamentally wrong, an author of CERN&#039;s safety report replied &quot;Jeopardizing the future of scientific research would be a global catastrophe.&quot;[8]  

The fact is some credible scientists have credible concerns about a potentially credible danger.  Senior Astrophysicist Dr. Plaga refutes safety conclusions of particle physicists who conjecture safety based on disputed properties of dense stars (astrophysics) and proposes feasible risk mitigation measures[1].  Dr. Rössler is a an award winning former visiting Professor of Physics famous for inventing Chaos theory&#039;s Rössler attractor and founding the field of Endophysics[2], he calculates that micro black holes could be catastrophic to Earth in years or decades.  Former University of Berkeley cosmic ray researcher and Nuclear Safety Officer Walter L. Wagner originally discovered fundamental flaws with CERN&#039;s safety arguments and filed a US Federal law suit to require reasonable proof of safety[3].  Other physicists, theoretical scientists and risk experts have also expressed concerns both publicly and privately[4]. 

Of the independent scientists who created detailed safety reviews and rebuttals not employed by CERN or asked to comment as a favor to CERN[9], a common theme is concluded, safety is unknown.  Some scientists are very concerned, and that is not misinformation or propaganda.[10]

 [1] arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/0808/0808.1415v1.pdf On the potential catastrophic risk from metastable quantum-black holes produced at particle colliders - Rainer Plaga Rebuttal (2008)

 [2] www.wissensnavigator.com/documents/OTTOROESSLERMINIBLACKHOLE.pdf Abraham-Solution to Schwarzschild Metric Implies That CERN Miniblack Holes Pose a Planetary Risk, Prof. Dr. Otto Rossler (2008)

 [3] www.lhcdefense.org/lhc_legal.php US Federal Lawsuit Filings - Walter L. Wagner (2008)

 [4] www.lhcdefense.org/lhc_expertssay.php What the Experts Say (2008)

 [5] xxx.lanl.gov/abs/gr-qc/0304042 Do black holes radiate?. Dr. Adam Helfer (2003)

 [6] arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0607137, On the existence of black hole evaporationyet again, Prof. VA Belinski (2006)

 [7] http://www.lhcdefense.org/pdf/Sancho%20v%20Doe%20-%20Affidavit%20of%20Luis%20Sancho.pdf AFFIDAVIT OF LUIS SANCHO IN UPPORT OF TRO AND PRELIMINARY INJUNCTION 

 [8] http://www.reason.com/news/show/128492.html A 1-in-1,000 Chance of Götterdämmerung, Will European physicists destroy the world? Ronald Bailey &#124; September 2, 2008

 [9] www.lhcfacts.org/?p=72 CERN?s Dr. Ellis tells only half of the story - LHCFacts.org (2008)

 [10] www.lhcfacts.com An agument for caution, risk mitigation and an open independent and credible safety conference before high energy collisions begin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Disinformation and propaganda are significant challenges.  </p>
<p>Disinformation includes stating that Large Hadron Collider safety is assured and global danger is not possible (as most people would understand not possible) when in fact safety is disputed by multiple credible sources[1][2] and safety is unknown[3][4].</p>
<p>Disinformation includes stating that micro black holes evaporate without noting that Hawking Radiation is unproven theory disputed by multiple credible papers as fundamentally flawed and may or does not exist.[5][6][2]</p>
<p>Disinformation and censorship includes directing CERN scientists to affirm no risk in all interviews regardless of personal opinion[7], and attacking the credibility of independent scientists who publicly express concern.</p>
<p>Are scientists more concerned with public opinion and funding scientific experimentation than safety?  At the Global Catastrophic Risk conference when Toby Ord estimated a 1 in 1,000 chance that CERN&#8217;s safety assumptions may be fundamentally wrong, an author of CERN&#8217;s safety report replied &#8220;Jeopardizing the future of scientific research would be a global catastrophe.&#8221;[8]  </p>
<p>The fact is some credible scientists have credible concerns about a potentially credible danger.  Senior Astrophysicist Dr. Plaga refutes safety conclusions of particle physicists who conjecture safety based on disputed properties of dense stars (astrophysics) and proposes feasible risk mitigation measures[1].  Dr. Rössler is a an award winning former visiting Professor of Physics famous for inventing Chaos theory&#8217;s Rössler attractor and founding the field of Endophysics[2], he calculates that micro black holes could be catastrophic to Earth in years or decades.  Former University of Berkeley cosmic ray researcher and Nuclear Safety Officer Walter L. Wagner originally discovered fundamental flaws with CERN&#8217;s safety arguments and filed a US Federal law suit to require reasonable proof of safety[3].  Other physicists, theoretical scientists and risk experts have also expressed concerns both publicly and privately[4]. </p>
<p>Of the independent scientists who created detailed safety reviews and rebuttals not employed by CERN or asked to comment as a favor to CERN[9], a common theme is concluded, safety is unknown.  Some scientists are very concerned, and that is not misinformation or propaganda.[10]</p>
<p> [1] arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/0808/0808.1415v1.pdf On the potential catastrophic risk from metastable quantum-black holes produced at particle colliders &#8211; Rainer Plaga Rebuttal (2008)</p>
<p> [2] <a href="http://www.wissensnavigator.com/documents/OTTOROESSLERMINIBLACKHOLE.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.wissensnavigator.com/documents/OTTOROESSLERMINIBLACKHOLE.pdf</a> Abraham-Solution to Schwarzschild Metric Implies That CERN Miniblack Holes Pose a Planetary Risk, Prof. Dr. Otto Rossler (2008)</p>
<p> [3] <a href="http://www.lhcdefense.org/lhc_legal.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.lhcdefense.org/lhc_legal.php</a> US Federal Lawsuit Filings &#8211; Walter L. Wagner (2008)</p>
<p> [4] <a href="http://www.lhcdefense.org/lhc_expertssay.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.lhcdefense.org/lhc_expertssay.php</a> What the Experts Say (2008)</p>
<p> [5] xxx.lanl.gov/abs/gr-qc/0304042 Do black holes radiate?. Dr. Adam Helfer (2003)</p>
<p> [6] arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0607137, On the existence of black hole evaporationyet again, Prof. VA Belinski (2006)</p>
<p> [7] <a href="http://www.lhcdefense.org/pdf/Sancho%20v%20Doe%20-%20Affidavit%20of%20Luis%20Sancho.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.lhcdefense.org/pdf/Sancho%20v%20Doe%20-%20Affidavit%20of%20Luis%20Sancho.pdf</a> AFFIDAVIT OF LUIS SANCHO IN UPPORT OF TRO AND PRELIMINARY INJUNCTION </p>
<p> [8] <a href="http://www.reason.com/news/show/128492.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.reason.com/news/show/128492.html</a> A 1-in-1,000 Chance of Götterdämmerung, Will European physicists destroy the world? Ronald Bailey | September 2, 2008</p>
<p> [9] <a href="http://www.lhcfacts.org/?p=72" rel="nofollow">http://www.lhcfacts.org/?p=72</a> CERN?s Dr. Ellis tells only half of the story &#8211; LHCFacts.org (2008)</p>
<p> [10] <a href="http://www.lhcfacts.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.lhcfacts.com</a> An agument for caution, risk mitigation and an open independent and credible safety conference before high energy collisions begin.</p>
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		<title>By: vodkasoda</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 11:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And one need only look at how Google hurt United Airlines last week by republishing a six year old article.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And one need only look at how Google hurt United Airlines last week by republishing a six year old article.</p>
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